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john mccain was on tape questioning whether she was qualified. there's one, a powerful senator. >> he thought she was qualified before. i'm not sure what's changed. here's the problem with the entire debate. everyone is focuses, at least these three senators focus on susan rice. none focus on their former colleague, which is former senator hillary clinton. she's the secretary of state. she's the sitting secretary of state. she's leaving. guess what? the embassy security was directly under her purview and staff's purview. i'm not suggesting she did anything wrong. i'm suggesting they're barking up the wrong tree. the problem with these three senators, kelly ayotte, lindsey graham and john mccain, is they're barking up the wrong tree here. >> what is the tree that's appropriate if we continue with that metaphor? >> the sitting secretary of state. if they're concerned about what happened in benghazi with our security, with our ambassador and the three other people that were killed, they ought to ask the sitting secretary of state to come to the cong
john mccain was on tape questioning whether she was qualified. there's one, a powerful senator. >> he thought she was qualified before. i'm not sure what's changed. here's the problem with the entire debate. everyone is focuses, at least these three senators focus on susan rice. none focus on their former colleague, which is former senator hillary clinton. she's the secretary of state. she's the sitting secretary of state. she's leaving. guess what? the embassy security was directly under...
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mccain, graham and ayotte all said they would block any effort to advance rice if she is nominated. i'm ed payne, reporting. >> later this week rice will meet with acting cia director mike morrell as well as senator susan collins of maine the top republican on the homeland security committee. >>> more republicans say the looming "fiscal cliff" is forcing them to reconsider their no tax pledges. some are now open to changes. dick durbin plans to lay out a proposal for a bipartisan group deemed the gang of 8. they have been working on a plan to reduce debt. if the lawmakers don't pass a plan by the end of the december tax hikes and budget cuts kick in. >>> a cyber monday tradition for federal officials took dozens of websites offline. it was the third annual crackdown on websites selling counterfeit merchandise. the sites were shut done after copyright holders that sports, dvds and other goods investigators bought on the websites were fake. the sites now display a banner that explains what happened. >>> robbers in san francisco are stealing iphones at an alarming rate. now, some peopl
mccain, graham and ayotte all said they would block any effort to advance rice if she is nominated. i'm ed payne, reporting. >> later this week rice will meet with acting cia director mike morrell as well as senator susan collins of maine the top republican on the homeland security committee. >>> more republicans say the looming "fiscal cliff" is forcing them to reconsider their no tax pledges. some are now open to changes. dick durbin plans to lay out a proposal for a...
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everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically susan rice is as good as he can do. the consensus in the democratic party is probably to the right of it. i wonder is there any push-back from the left or from democrats in washington toward the administration just saying, hey, look, don't fall for this trap of nominating susan rice because you have to? get somebody that agrees more? >> susan rice is very well respected, and i know a lot of progressives wanted her to be a spokesperson because they thought she was effective. susan rice is known as the conscience of the administration when it comes to
everyone is talking about john mccain again. so some people wonder if there's a little bit of political opportunism there. >> i want to go back to something krystal said a minute ago. closing ranks behind susan rice because much political battle lines in this. you made the point earlier if you just looked at this without regard to benghazi and said john mccain realistically speaking, who potentially could appoint secretary of state that would agree ideological with you. realistically...
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john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain went on fox news to try to continue to advance his theory of a massive white house cover-up of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. senator mccain has been advancing this cover-up theory demanding answers. he appears to be tuning out those answers when they are provided to him. it is getting weirder and weirder over time. here, watch. >> who changed the talking points that were used by ambassador rice? that is a question senator mccain that we have the answer to. the intelligence agencies acknowledged last week that they were the ones
john mccain is a man with many, many questions. john mccain is a man with many questions and a man in desperate need to some answers to those questions or at least he just likes to say that over and over again on television. there is a strange thing about all of senator mccain's questions, though. the answers to his questions appear to be readily available, known to everybody in the country who cares about this matter, september for john mccain. here is what i mean. yesterday, senator mccain...
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tonight's lead, the mccain gang wants what it wants. today u.n. ambassador susan rice went to capitol hill to meet with the three republican senators who have been her harshest critics over what she said on sunday talk shows about the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. it was a meeting ambassador rice requested to try and clear the air. she went to the meetings with the acting cia director. but the republican senators were not swayed, not in the least. in fact, it sounded like they had settled on their talking points. here's what they said after the meeting. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed more than i was before. here's what i can tell you. the american people got bad information on 16 september, they got bad information from president obama days after. it was unjustified. to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three wee
tonight's lead, the mccain gang wants what it wants. today u.n. ambassador susan rice went to capitol hill to meet with the three republican senators who have been her harshest critics over what she said on sunday talk shows about the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. it was a meeting ambassador rice requested to try and clear the air. she went to the meetings with the acting cia director. but the republican senators were not swayed, not in the least. in fact, it sounded like...
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it was john mccain. and that's one of the ironies that's lost in all this. >> because gadhafi was our help -- >> he was helpful against al qaeda. absolutely. >> this is really black spy, white spy. this is crazy stuff. thank you. michael o'hanlon and jonathan landay. >>> elections have consequences, i say it all the time. and the democrats are feeling emboldened. they want to see taxes go up on the rich. they want to protect programs like medicare and medicaid. will they give president obama room to negotiate some kind of deal that gets through this hell coming january 1st. they say they won, the other side lost, they're going to fight. >>> plus democrats are moving to end the so-called silent filibuster which republicans have used to quietly say if you don't have 60 votes, you ain't going nowhere. this is the big question, if they're successful, it's possible, it's possible the democrats will be able to get some things done. we'll talk about that in a minute. they're going to be just like jimmy stewart
it was john mccain. and that's one of the ironies that's lost in all this. >> because gadhafi was our help -- >> he was helpful against al qaeda. absolutely. >> this is really black spy, white spy. this is crazy stuff. thank you. michael o'hanlon and jonathan landay. >>> elections have consequences, i say it all the time. and the democrats are feeling emboldened. they want to see taxes go up on the rich. they want to protect programs like medicare and medicaid. will...
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rice met with republican senators john mccain, lindsay graham, and kelly ayott, all had vowed to block her nomination after what she said about the deadly attack on americans on n benghazi, libya. here's what graham said moments ago when the meeting came to a close. >> if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you -- the american people got bad information on 16, september. they got bad information from president obama days after. and the question is should they have been giving the information at all. if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information at all? >> ah. let's go straight to cnn's dana bash. so before we heard that pretty explosive news conference, it seemed as though there was a bit of a softening of some of the gop's opposition to ms. rice's moving up in the president's cabinet. now after hearing that, i need to get some clarity if i can from you about whether the criticism is about ms. ric
rice met with republican senators john mccain, lindsay graham, and kelly ayott, all had vowed to block her nomination after what she said about the deadly attack on americans on n benghazi, libya. here's what graham said moments ago when the meeting came to a close. >> if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you -- the american people got...
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where were graham, ayotte and mccain's voices there? maggie says mccain looks senile. graham looks snarky and ayotte looks like an opportunist. your three amigos. >> bill: joe lieberman who was the third amigo, he said this is foolish. he was very satisfied with his meeting with susan rice and thinks she's telling truth and that wants nothing to do with the attacks. >> so does the american public. the cnn poll showed the american public, while they feel they haven't handled it well, certainly doesn't feel that they're willing lied to. >> bill: susan is calling us from rockford, illinois. hey, susan, good morning. >> caller: hi, susan rice didn't do a thing wrong. geraldo rivera admitted on his tv show, i watched it, he congratulated himself on coining the phrase benghazi gate -- >> of course he did. >> caller: and that's thousand all got started. it was a plan, i'm sure there was money involved. somebody got paid for making up the story. that woman didn't do a thing wrong. it was b.s. from the beginning. i think geraldo needs to serve community service for you know, i
where were graham, ayotte and mccain's voices there? maggie says mccain looks senile. graham looks snarky and ayotte looks like an opportunist. your three amigos. >> bill: joe lieberman who was the third amigo, he said this is foolish. he was very satisfied with his meeting with susan rice and thinks she's telling truth and that wants nothing to do with the attacks. >> so does the american public. the cnn poll showed the american public, while they feel they haven't handled it well,...
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she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. >>> a state senator from idaho is now getting behind a plan that's been circulating on tea party blogs. calling for states that supported mitt romney to refuse to participate in the electoral college. a move they believe would change the results of the election. it's the kind of radical talk that turned off a lot of voters in the last election, but the wall street journal reports, they are regrouping, searching for candidates who can win in 2014. i'm joined by amy cramer who is chair of th
she'll be meeting with john mccain, lindsey graham, and kelly ayott. we're keeping our eye on that and we will keep you posted. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for...
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joe lieberman was close to john mccain. he has broken with mccain on this issue. he had a meeting with her yesterday and thinks she told the truth about what happened and does not have any issue with that. there is an the guy going -- investigation going on the fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions -- fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions about security, and why chris stevens was in the gaza without better protection -- again, those are separate -- benghazi without better protection -- but again, those are separate questions. host: north carolina. republican. you are next. caller: i think this susan rice thing is a smokescreen. you have somebody that is an ambassador and rehearses talking points, and she does not question or analyze the information, whether it is true or not. the cia says they knew this was a terrorist attack within 24 hours, and days later she is voicing the same thing, as well as president obama. consequently, it looks like the whole problem goes about her. i am a retired captain in the navy. if you do not have leader
joe lieberman was close to john mccain. he has broken with mccain on this issue. he had a meeting with her yesterday and thinks she told the truth about what happened and does not have any issue with that. there is an the guy going -- investigation going on the fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions -- fbi investigation going on, and i suspect questions about security, and why chris stevens was in the gaza without better protection -- again, those are separate -- benghazi without...
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senator ayotte and sflor mccain and senator graham have been about ambassador rice. she hasn't been that critical up until now. but those meetings are not over. when she emerges, when ambassador rice emerges from this meeting -- >> reporter: ashleigh i'm going to interrupt you because senator collins is here right now. >> terrific. if you could grab her for us that would be terrific. we'll find out the tenor. let's listen. >> i've just cudedn hour and 15 minutes with ambassador t remain unanswered. i continue to be troubled by the fact that the u.n. ambassador decided to play what was essentially a political role at the height of a contentious presidential election campaign by agreeing to go on the sunday shows to present the administration's position. in addition, it is interesting to me that ambassador rice emphasized in her presentation not that this was a terrorist attack by al qaeda affiliates but, rather, that it had begun with a protest that we nownow was nonexistent and that it was linked to a video, which we also know is not accurate. at the time ambassador
senator ayotte and sflor mccain and senator graham have been about ambassador rice. she hasn't been that critical up until now. but those meetings are not over. when she emerges, when ambassador rice emerges from this meeting -- >> reporter: ashleigh i'm going to interrupt you because senator collins is here right now. >> terrific. if you could grab her for us that would be terrific. we'll find out the tenor. let's listen. >> i've just cudedn hour and 15 minutes with...
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senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't know anything about this, i'm going on every single show. >> joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor managing editor of post politics.com and our own nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. well, this was pretty tense. chris, first to you. you've seen a lot of confirmation battles. this really did seem like an escalation, a warning shot. >> maybe they come out of this and say, look, we still kind of disagree with the way this played out but the explanations that ambassador rice gave us helped us understand. instead, what we got coming out of it was, as you point out, i think, an u
senators mccain, ayotte and graham say they have more questions than they had before rice's comments about benghazi. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get it. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. >> that's troubling to me as well, why she wouldn't have asked, i'm the person that doesn't...
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they and john mccain tell reporters their questions about benghazi have gone unanswered. they say ambassador rice didn't answer them in their meeting with her this morning. and apparently neither did david petraeus in his closed door testimony more than a week ago. nor other administration officials in their testimony a week prior to that. mind you, senator mccain and others skipped that because it was in conflict with their benghazi media schedule. regardless, they have now had the opportunity to meet practically every major actor in this ginned up controversy, but it doesn't matter because this is all they had to say just a short time ago. >> significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. i'm more convinced than ever that it was bad, it was unjustified. >> joining us now is goldie taylor, an msnbc contributor and author, and dana mill barbankmi columni isist for "the washingt post." who else do republicans need to hear from because we're running out of names or are they exp
they and john mccain tell reporters their questions about benghazi have gone unanswered. they say ambassador rice didn't answer them in their meeting with her this morning. and apparently neither did david petraeus in his closed door testimony more than a week ago. nor other administration officials in their testimony a week prior to that. mind you, senator mccain and others skipped that because it was in conflict with their benghazi media schedule. regardless, they have now had the opportunity...
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mccain: i move to reconsider the last vote. a senator: are we in a quorum call? a senator: mr. president? the presiding officer: the senator from new hampshire is recognized. ms. ayotte: thank you, mr. president. i want to talk this morning about an amendment that i had intended to offer but i'm not going to be offering today because there are -- there is an important portion of the house armed services committee that covers my concerns, and that was the amendment that i had drafted that is cosponsored by senators lieberman and collins, and i appreciate their support. it would be to establish an east coast ballistic missile defense site to make sure that the east coast of our country is protected from missile threats. and let me describe why i thought it was very important. my amendment would have established both a study on three potential locations for an east coast missile defense site, an environmental impact study and a plan for deployment of that site. where we are right now, unfortunately we have iran and no one disagrees that iran has an active ballistic missile develop
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>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for the incomplete and in some cases wrong story she gave on five different shows that sunday, i don't think that behind closed doors the republican senators were going after her personally. they came out afterwards and made it sound like the grave matter it was involving her. i don't think that's where they're at behind closed doors. >> let's listen to president obama on november 14th. about the senator's attacks on ambassador rice. >> when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target? then they've got a problem with me. and should i choose, if i think that she wou
>> well, from talking to a top official in the white house and to senator mccain, behind closed doors, the meeting wasn't as contentious as those statements after ward made it sound. at least as regard to ambassador rice. i think both sides agree that there are legitimate questions to be asked about the timeline of what happened in benghazi. about the state of knowledge at the time, about security protections and so forth, but as far as holding ambassador rice personally accountable for...
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but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called her up there. >> no question about that. she's pushing these meetings, the one asking for these meetings. like i said, if this is auditioning to be our top diplomat, what that's what these meetings are about -- >> sometimes you go into meetings in diplomacy and you do come out aggressively because some foreign countries aren't our allies and aren't going to be. >> no question. >> as far as she can tell, john mccain doesn't seem like an alloy so it was a tough meeting. that's fine. >> joy-ann, last word. >> john mccain is driven by his resentments and his piques. the idea when he was beaten
but i've known senator mccain for a long time. he's never on talking points. he always talks about what he believes and what he thinks. i've seen him go into those meetings where he's walked out and said i'm still not for her but not as against her as i was. apparently they didn't find a whole lot to agree with in that meeting. if she's auditioning to be the top diplomat, i would hope they'd come out better. >> she did request the meetings. >> right. >> not as if they called...
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john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is expected to released within the next 72 hours. >>> coming up, president obama may be meeting with governor romney today but also hosting other special and possibly much, much smarter guests at the white house. we'll reveal the vips next. have a good night. here you go. you, too. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the
john mccain standing behind someone like john kerry who was swift boated. >> what is that you say? threw his medaled over the fence. put him in the top diplomatic position. >> the irony, thick like a cake. we have to take a break. update about former president george h.w. bush hospitalized in houston quote, president bush has been in and out of the methodist hospital in the texas medical center treated for complications relating to his bronchitis. he's in stable condition and is...
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first the lead story, three republican senators, mccain from arizona, graham from south carolina, and ayotte from new hampshire, met with u.n. ambassador susan rice today. remember ambassador rice misled the world how christopher stevens was murdered in benghazi on 9-11. the senators wanted to hear her explanation because she might be nominated as secretary of state. the meeting did not go well because the issue of initially ignoring the terrorist involvement was not explained by dr. rice. >> as i understand it, the explanation is that that was being withheld, the al-qaeda involvement was -- that point of the talking points was being withheld for classified reasons, but i also explored didn't you question that because that left, if you were to omit that portion, it leaves a very different impression to the american people and frankly, i didn't get a satisfactory answer to that. >> bill: joining us from washington to react, fox news analyst charles krauthammer. so bigger mess now than it's ever been. here is my assessment based on what happened today. i'm going to go on the record. thi
first the lead story, three republican senators, mccain from arizona, graham from south carolina, and ayotte from new hampshire, met with u.n. ambassador susan rice today. remember ambassador rice misled the world how christopher stevens was murdered in benghazi on 9-11. the senators wanted to hear her explanation because she might be nominated as secretary of state. the meeting did not go well because the issue of initially ignoring the terrorist involvement was not explained by dr. rice....
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and i understand from senator mccain, i understand from senator mccain these amendments have been cleared on his side. i understand that these -- and i now ask consent the senate consider these amendments en bloc, the amendments be agreed to and the motion to reconsider be laid on the table. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection, it's so ordered. the amendments are agreed to en bloc. the senator from michigan. mr. levin: what is the pending matter? the presiding officer: it is now in order for the senator from new hampshire to offer an amendment. mr. levin: and there are 20 minutes equally divided, i understand? the presiding officer: there will be. mr. levin: i would -- oh, the senator from new hampshire is ready to proceed. the presiding officer: the senator from new hampshire. ms. ayotte: i ask unanimous consent to temporarily set aside the pending amendments so i may call up my amendment 3245 which is at the desk. the presiding officer: without objection. ms. ayotte thank you, mr. president. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: the senator fr
and i understand from senator mccain, i understand from senator mccain these amendments have been cleared on his side. i understand that these -- and i now ask consent the senate consider these amendments en bloc, the amendments be agreed to and the motion to reconsider be laid on the table. the presiding officer: is there objection? without objection, it's so ordered. the amendments are agreed to en bloc. the senator from michigan. mr. levin: what is the pending matter? the presiding officer:...
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i have a real issue with that. >> when ask good mccain, rice was conciliatory -- asked about mccain, rice was conciliatory. >> i have great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have, and i always will. i do think that some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded, but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> that's today. after saying mccain would do whatever it takes to block rice's nomination, he now appears to be softening. he says rice deserves the chance to explain her actions. so in light of all of this, the "talk back" question -- should susan rice be considered for secretary of state? facebook.com/carolcnn. facebook.com/carolcnbc. yo -- facebook.com/carolcnn. your comments later. >>> do police have a right to seize your cell phone for evidence some what about your gps and texts? we'll talk about this legal clash between the law and technology. [ male announcer ] with over 50 delicious choices of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a gr
i have a real issue with that. >> when ask good mccain, rice was conciliatory -- asked about mccain, rice was conciliatory. >> i have great respect for senator mccain and his service to our country. i always have, and i always will. i do think that some of the statements he made about me have been unfounded, but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> that's today. after saying mccain would do whatever it takes to...
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i believe i'm quoting senator mccain who said not bright and called her incompetent as well. so i don't understand why everyone is not calling hillary clinton on the carpet, which has not happened. she has said the buck stops with her, some version of that. i guess i would love for you to explain that to me. >> quite candidly, in the first briefing that we had it sha-- it the date, but secretary of clinton was the first person in the administration to acknowledge this was a terrorist attack. i think she has been forthcoming in the disclosures that have taken place. it's the administration, even d.i. clapper, national intelligence director clapper, only a week or so ago that he finally acknowledged they had done the scrubbing of what was released as the talking points. >> roland martin here. now i'm confused. you just said we need to understand about security, why was it in place, but the problem is secretary clinton, that was her department. so that's why i'm confused. is it a question of who acknowledge acknowledged a terrorist tie or who was responsible for prudent security
i believe i'm quoting senator mccain who said not bright and called her incompetent as well. so i don't understand why everyone is not calling hillary clinton on the carpet, which has not happened. she has said the buck stops with her, some version of that. i guess i would love for you to explain that to me. >> quite candidly, in the first briefing that we had it sha-- it the date, but secretary of clinton was the first person in the administration to acknowledge this was a terrorist...
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bill: we mentioned john mccain. who else is at this meeting, catherine. >> reporter: one of the most interesting developments this morning is that in addition to rice and the senators the acting director of the cia mike mo remember, l will -lts be at th will also be at the meeting. there is no comment on why he is there and at whose request. morel along with the senior leadership in the intelligence community said those controversial talking points about benghazi were changed after they left the u.s. intelligence community. now there has been a complete reversal of that position with a spokesman for the national of intelligence, he is the senior manager of the intelligence community saying they were behind the significant changes which involved stripping out the language of al-qaida. again the criticism of rice is that in addition to talking points she had access to classified intelligence that showed strong support for a terrorist attacks within days not within two days of the assault. bill: there is drama in these
bill: we mentioned john mccain. who else is at this meeting, catherine. >> reporter: one of the most interesting developments this morning is that in addition to rice and the senators the acting director of the cia mike mo remember, l will -lts be at th will also be at the meeting. there is no comment on why he is there and at whose request. morel along with the senior leadership in the intelligence community said those controversial talking points about benghazi were changed after they...
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the republicans should move on to other serious questions. >> well, especially if -- yes, yesterday, mccain and ayotte and graham were saying we want to know why the u.s. military was unable to respond within search hours, our consulate was left so insecure. these are not questions susan rice has the answer to. luke, i want to ask about the interpersonal dynamics. susan rice is tough and as the governor said during the break she does not suffer fools badly. these were make nice meetings that didn't seem to go so well, correct? kelly ayotte known as a particular fire brand but came out with very, very strong language and said she would put a hold on susan rice's nomination. >> look, two things were surprising here. number one, a visit like this when you're actually not the nominee to be secretary of state, is a little odd. we were talking with other reporters earlier and no one can really remember these types of diplomatic visits for someone not officially nominated. after the criticism of rice softened this past weekend a lot of us expected this would be a get nice pow wow. it turned out to
the republicans should move on to other serious questions. >> well, especially if -- yes, yesterday, mccain and ayotte and graham were saying we want to know why the u.s. military was unable to respond within search hours, our consulate was left so insecure. these are not questions susan rice has the answer to. luke, i want to ask about the interpersonal dynamics. susan rice is tough and as the governor said during the break she does not suffer fools badly. these were make nice meetings...
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with today's meeting she hoped she could face the senators lindsey graham, john mccain. kelly ayotte who claim she misled the public during the explanation of the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, which ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed. now as a result of this meeting one has to raise the question, particularly with the white house, is this a nomination they can move forward with considering the fact that the all three senators left very troubled by answers. jenna: all the questions who is behind the attacks in benghazi, when they, if ever will be brought to justice? we can't lose focus on that along with the politics is an important story today. kelly, thank you so much. >> reporter: thank you, jenna. jon: as the clock ticks toward that many looking fiscal cliff president obama is taking his case to small business owners from across the country, meeting with more than a dozen at the white house, looking to avoid a year-end tax hikes and spending cuts. republican leaders will meet with a bipartisan group of form
with today's meeting she hoped she could face the senators lindsey graham, john mccain. kelly ayotte who claim she misled the public during the explanation of the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, which ambassador chris stevens and three other americans were killed. now as a result of this meeting one has to raise the question, particularly with the white house, is this a nomination they can move forward with considering the fact that the all three senators left...
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john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >> or could be a $50,000 cap or something even higher than that. now chris cizilla, let's talk about the lack of civility or the contentiousness of this susan rice situation where she's back on the hill today. let me play a little bit of susan collins, republican from maine, known as a moderate, discussing the possibility of a john kerry nomination to be secretary of state. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be easily confirmed by his colleagues. >> at the same time, there was really no love there for susan rice and what she did, which was surprising to a lot of us watching, was she raise
john mccain, and his news, john kerry, still a big force in the senate and maybe a nominee for secretary of state. it's hard to see mitt romney in the roles. remember that one of the ideas that mitt romney floated during the presidential campaign, just might be part of the deal that gets -- >> which is the cap. >> a cap. he would put a pretty low cap, $17,000 on high income taxpayers. it's possible that will survive even though mitt romney's presidential prospects did not. >>...
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you have senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte. she went to address concerns they have over statements the ambassador made over the u.s. mission in benghazi on september 11th that left ambassador chris stevens and three other americans dead. i want you to listen to what senator graham, republican south carolina, here, said immediately after the meeting ended. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans died in benghazi, libya, by ambassador rice, i think does not do justice to the reality at the time, and in hindsight clearly was completely wrong. but here's the key. in real time, it was a statement disconnected from reality. >> and now here is senator ayotte. >> i want to say that i'm more troubled today, knowing -- having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice, because it's certainly clear from the beginning that we knew that those with ties to al qaeda were involved in the attack on the embassy. and clearly the impression that was given,
you have senator john mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte. she went to address concerns they have over statements the ambassador made over the u.s. mission in benghazi on september 11th that left ambassador chris stevens and three other americans dead. i want you to listen to what senator graham, republican south carolina, here, said immediately after the meeting ended. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before that the 16 september explanation about how four americans...
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john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear that the information that she gave the american people was incorrect. >> bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> if you don't know what happened just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and i want to say -- >> i'm more troubled today knowing having met with the acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. clearly the impression that was given, the information given to the american people was wrong, in fact, ambassador rice said today, absolutely it was wrong. >> drunk driving
john mccain over the weekend. >> john mccain backed up. >> so it's really cool when she said i'm sorry. >> she did the brave thing and went right in there and said i want to -- >> how did that work. >> and talked about her initial account of the attack and explained to them she was relying on faulty intelligence and talking points from the intelligence community. >> they said? >> they said, you know what, we still don't get it. >> throw the video....
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she didn't attack john mccain and said i respect john mccain for his service and i look forward to talking to him and explaining my side of the story. how could senator mccain go i don't want to talk to her . senator graham said i i can't give my time? she is a scholar and see if she can win them over. i don't think that john kerry is really on everyone's a list anyway and they might be saying are we better off as a nation. >> gretchen: y are right. she is putting those top three republicans in a box in the meeting today. it will be difficult for them to come out now and criticize her, she is the one who offered the olive branch to come and have the meeting with them. it is nothing to do with whether or not she should be secretary of state. but the optics of this and work in her favor in a huge way today. >> steve: generally before somebody is nominated for a big job they go talk to the opposite party. it could be an explanation of why she would being up to capitol hill with mike morell. i said that because this guy's department told me to say that? >> brian: we know the cia's director sai
she didn't attack john mccain and said i respect john mccain for his service and i look forward to talking to him and explaining my side of the story. how could senator mccain go i don't want to talk to her . senator graham said i i can't give my time? she is a scholar and see if she can win them over. i don't think that john kerry is really on everyone's a list anyway and they might be saying are we better off as a nation. >> gretchen: y are right. she is putting those top three...
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i don't want to impute to senator mccain or graham but is there an element of tweaking the president here? >> there always is. whatever party is doing it. one of the things that sounded interesting from senator ayotte is that based on her comments, she seemed more concerned about what she heard from the acting c.i.a. director, mike morrell than -- she named him first and susan rice was almost an afterthought. i wonder if that was what was disturbing to senator ayotte or any of the other senators. >> eliot: that might be more legitimate although the c.i.a. if you listen to david petraeus said we knew this was not a spontaneous revolt or spontaneous eruption and therefore our information -- look, this will continue for some period of time. let's switch gears a little bit to what's going on in egypt. which seems to be sort of gripping us at an international level. morsi on one day is a hero. he's brokered a deal. the second day he's under assault by the very people in the street who swept him into power. how do you assess what's going on and our capacity to nudge him toward maintaining
i don't want to impute to senator mccain or graham but is there an element of tweaking the president here? >> there always is. whatever party is doing it. one of the things that sounded interesting from senator ayotte is that based on her comments, she seemed more concerned about what she heard from the acting c.i.a. director, mike morrell than -- she named him first and susan rice was almost an afterthought. i wonder if that was what was disturbing to senator ayotte or any of the other...
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he was going to say, i, john mccain, have the moral authority, i john mccain, have the credibility to block susan rice if i want her to be blocked, and by god i'm going to do it. then yesterday, he switched gears. he back pedalled at warp speed. >> is this just another briefing for three senators that have taken issue with her performance? >> i think it's a savvy political move by rice to say that -- to understand that, you know, she does have to answer mccain's concerns because he still is, to some people, not to me, but to some people, he's still john mccain with a lot of authority. so he has to go see him. but i think she's going to come out of this meeting looking fine. i think mccain is going to have a press conference where he's going to say she answered his questions to his satisfaction and i think he's going to send the signal tomorrow afternoon that she's okay. >> maybe they will compare academic records. you write that mccain should have zero credibility on susan rice and benghazi. why does the washington establishment always seem to turn to mccain for, let's see what the go
he was going to say, i, john mccain, have the moral authority, i john mccain, have the credibility to block susan rice if i want her to be blocked, and by god i'm going to do it. then yesterday, he switched gears. he back pedalled at warp speed. >> is this just another briefing for three senators that have taken issue with her performance? >> i think it's a savvy political move by rice to say that -- to understand that, you know, she does have to answer mccain's concerns because he...
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young girl from south asia, you're saying that mccain is being driven by racial prejudice here? >> there's no other way to look at this. >> jon: another week and another twist in the media coverage of the benghazi terror attacks and the aftermath and ambassadors susan rice and reworked talking points about the deadly event. you kind of got a sense testify there, jim. there's a suggestion that any criticism directed toward the obama administration is either racist or sexist. is that the new media mean? >> and rich wilson has no other way to look at it. that settles that. look, it's clear that for time magazine they said it's ace politics for the democrats, if the obama administration nominates here and see her support there and the tact that they'll take at sort of a mass political level. at the elite level. i think the administration is doing a pretty good job of saying, well, actually the talking points were massaged by james clapper and by the justice department and a lot of fingerprints there and david petraeus came along and said there are reasons why they took out the al-qa
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senator john mccain has. this is why senator hutchinson says these young people deserve a break stpw they want t break. >> they want to go to college and be part of our system. the best thing we can do to utilize their talents and the education they received is give them legal status and have them earn their way into permanent status. bill: how would this work, the achieve act. >> this would set up a three-stage visa system for those brought to the u.s. at a very young age. to qualify you have to be brought to the u.s. at 14 or younger. you have to be 28 years or younger to apply and no criminal record whatsoever and there would be a background check and a knowledge of english, u.s. history and u.s. government. those fighting for comprehensive immigration reform says this bill does not go far enough. it is not likely to see action during this lame-duck session, but some time next year. bill: now they think what, steve? >> they think it's time to take some kind of action toward immigration, and of course that
senator john mccain has. this is why senator hutchinson says these young people deserve a break stpw they want t break. >> they want to go to college and be part of our system. the best thing we can do to utilize their talents and the education they received is give them legal status and have them earn their way into permanent status. bill: how would this work, the achieve act. >> this would set up a three-stage visa system for those brought to the u.s. at a very young age. to...
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we've got senator mccain to co- sponsor it. as we try to broaden out from there, we had to start compromising. we never intended the across the board cuts to go into affect. we wanted to make them so terrible that congress would have a shield for they could say to people -- i do not want to do these things. if i do not do that, look at the terrible things that happen. we started off with the idea that the first thing you should cut is the cost of living increases built into entitlements. we explained it to people as the plate glass effect. visited with about 25 senators, we came back and struck it out of the bill. we continued to work, and we continued to compromise, and at the end of the day, the baby was not as pretty as one we started, but we concluded it was pretty enough to continue on with it. warren rudman was a strong, courageous man. he stood up for principle. he was willing to fight for things. in this era where everyone in this town is focused on compromise, he was a person willing to compromise. he was willing to co
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capitol hill, she and the acting cia director, michael morell, meeting with republican senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsay graham, who were not pleased with what they heard. >> it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other americans who are fully aware that people don't bring mortars and rocket-propelled grenades to spontaneous demonstrations. >> in a statement after the meeting, ambassador rice said that neither she nor anyone in the administration intended to mislead the american people. but the breaking news concerns the part in her sunday talk show statements that substituted the word "extremists" for al qaeda. remember, the administration said she was working from edited talking points. the question is, who did the editing? today, the senators say that acting director morell told them the fbi did. they say they later heard fr
capitol hill, she and the acting cia director, michael morell, meeting with republican senators john mccain, kelly ayotte and lindsay graham, who were not pleased with what they heard. >> it is clear that the information she gave the american people was incorrect when she said it was a spontaneous demonstration triggered by a hateful video. it was not, and there was compelling evidence at the time that that was certainly not the case, including statements by libyans as well as other...
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john mccain himself has actually done on those issues. on abortion rights and women's health, here's how john mccain has personally models this behavior that he describes for these issues. the folks keep track of these things. on how he's left the abortion issue alone. dozens of times continually voting not to leave abortion at all, but to take them away from american women entirely. as a matter of policy. that's how he's left that issue alone. he also said sunday in that same breath that the republican party needs to work on comprehensive immigration reform, obviously. here's how john mccain led on the issue of immigration reform when he had the chance to be a party leader on that subject. here's his determined leadership on that issue back in 2008 when he had the chance to lead on it. >> your original immigration proposal in 2006 was much broader and included a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants who were already here. what i'm wondering, and you seem to be down playing that part. at this point, if your original proposal came
john mccain himself has actually done on those issues. on abortion rights and women's health, here's how john mccain has personally models this behavior that he describes for these issues. the folks keep track of these things. on how he's left the abortion issue alone. dozens of times continually voting not to leave abortion at all, but to take them away from american women entirely. as a matter of policy. that's how he's left that issue alone. he also said sunday in that same breath that the...
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they had that initial ferocious opposition by lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain, a big press conference and really took a stance. the administration decides to send her up to try to repair things. they come out of the meeting, she obviously didn't graduate from any washington charm school, because even kelly ayotte it looked like they had just lost their best friend after that meeting. they were not happy. then there is another round of meetings and cork eri corker is saying he should withdraw the nomination. megyn: he said she would make a better dnc chair, that is debbie wasserman schultz job. >> it seems like a classic obama set up of the republicans. this is a way to bring up the whole war on women, meaning that republicans really don't understand women, look they don't have any female chairmen of their committees on capitol hill. they didn't get any of the female vote, and they just don't get it. they are doing this to this poor woman, and she is a great person and a great public servant. to me it seems like there is a political reason for continuing to, you know,
they had that initial ferocious opposition by lindsey graham and kelly ayotte and john mccain, a big press conference and really took a stance. the administration decides to send her up to try to repair things. they come out of the meeting, she obviously didn't graduate from any washington charm school, because even kelly ayotte it looked like they had just lost their best friend after that meeting. they were not happy. then there is another round of meetings and cork eri corker is saying he...